20 CRR-NY 3-8.2NY-CRR

STATE COMPILATION OF CODES, RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK
TITLE 20. DEPARTMENT OF TAXATION AND FINANCE
CHAPTER I. FRANCHISE AND CERTAIN BUSINESS TAXES
SUBCHAPTER A. BUSINESS CORPORATION FRANCHISE TAX
PART 3. METHODS OF COMPUTING TAX
SUBPART 3-8. NET OPERATING LOSS DEDUCTION
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3-8.2 Amount of net operating loss deduction allowed.
(a) The net operating loss deduction allowed under article 9-A is presumably the same as that which is allowed for Federal income tax purposes, subject to the three limitations explained in subdivisions (b), (c) and (d) of this section.
(b) The first limitation on the net operating loss deduction for purposes of article 9-A is that no deduction is allowed for a loss sustained during any taxable year beginning prior to January 1, 1961, or sustained during any year in which the corporation sustaining the loss was not subject to tax under article 9-A.
Example 1:
A corporation is incorporated in Pennsylvania in January 1972. During the taxable year 1972, it sustains an operating loss of $10,000. In January 1973, it begins to do business in New York State. For the taxable year 1973, it has entire net income of $10,000. The loss sustained in 1972 shall not be carried forward to taxable year 1973 or to any subsequent taxable year, since the corporation was not subject to the New York State franchise tax in 1972.
(c) The second limitation on the net operating loss deduction for purposes of article 9-A is that any net operating loss which is carried back or forward for Federal tax purposes must be adjusted to reflect the additions and subtractions required by sections 3-2.3 and 3-2.4 of this Part.
Example 2:
For the calendar year 1973, a taxpayer has Federal gross income of $400,000, including $100,000 of dividends from nonsubsidiary corporations. It has deductible operating expenses of $400,000, including $5,000 of New York State franchise tax. Its Federal net operating loss is $85,000, and its net operating loss under article 9-A is $45,000, computed as follows:
Federal
Gross income
 
$400,000
Less: operating expenses
 
400,000
Taxable income before special deductions
 
$ -0-
Less: special dividends received deduction (Internal Revenue Code, § 243)
 
85,000
Federal net operating loss
 
($ 85,000)
New York State
Federal taxable income before net operating loss deduction and special deductions
 
-0-
Add: New York State franchise tax deducted on Federal return
 
$ 5,000
Total
 
$ 5,000
Subtract: 50 percent of dividends received from non-subsidiary capital
 
50,000*
New York State net operating loss
 
($ 45,000)
Example 3:
If the dividends in Example 2 were from subsidiaries, the New York State net operating loss would be $95,000, computed as follows:
Federal taxable income before net operating loss deduction and special deductions
 
$ -0-
Add: New York State franchise tax deducted on Federal return
 
$ 5,000
Total
 
$ 5,000
Subtract: 100 percent of dividends from subsidiary capital
 
$100,000*
New York State net operating loss
 
($ 95,000)
(d) The third limitation on the net operating loss deduction for purposes of article 9-A is that in any year, it may not exceed the deduction allowable for that year for Federal income tax purposes under section 172 of the Internal Revenue Code, or the deduction which would have been allowable if the taxpayer had not made an election under subchapter S, adjusted to exclude any loss or portion thereof arising from any taxable year in which the corporation sustaining the loss was not subject to tax under article 9-A (see subdivision (b) of this section and section 3-8.1(b) of this Subpart).
Example 4:
If the taxpayer in Example 3 had, in taxable years 1970 and 1971, Federal gross income of $500,000, including $100,000 of dividends from subsidiary corporations and expenses of $350,000, including New York State franchise taxes of $5,000, its Federal and State net operating loss deduction would be $65,000 in 1970 and $20,000 in 1971, computed as follows:
Federal
1970
Gross income
 
$500,000
Less: expenses
 
350,000
Federal taxable income (before special deductions)
 
$150,000
Less: special dividends received deductions (Internal Revenue Code, § 43)
 
85,000
Federal taxable income after special deductions
 
$ 65,000
Net operating loss deduction (out of total Federal loss for 1973 of $85,000)
 
65,000
Taxable income
 
$ -0-
1971
Gross income
 
$500,000
Less: expenses
 
350,000
Federal taxable income (before special deductions)
 
$150,000
Less: special dividends received deduction (Internal Revenue Code § 243)
 
85,000
$ 65,000
1973 operating loss carry back
 
$ 85,000
Less: amount deducted in 1970
 
65,000
Unused net operating loss deduction carried from 1970 to 1971
 
20,000
Taxable income
 
$ 45,000
New York State
1970
Federal taxable income (before special deduction and net operating loss deduction)
 
$150,000
Add: New York State franchise tax deducted on Federal return
 
5,000
Subtract: one hundred percent (100%) of dividends from subsidiary capital
 
100,000
$ 55,000
Net operating loss deduction (out of total New York State loss for 1973 of $95,000)
 
65,000
Entire net income (loss)
 
($ 10,000)**
1971
Federal taxable income (before special deduction and net operating loss deduction)
 
$150,000
Add: New York State franchise tax deducted on Federal return
 
5,000
Total
 
$155,000
Subtract: 100 percent of dividends from subsidiary capital
 
100,000
$55,000
Net operating loss deduction (the unused balance of the New York State loss of $95,000 for 1973 (see Example 3) would be $30,000, but the New York State deduction may not exceed the Federal deduction)
 
20,000
Entire net income
 
$ 35,000
Although deductions totaling only $85,000 are allowed for 1970 and 1971 on account of the $95,000 loss sustained in 1973, the $10,000 balance may not be carried back as a deduction in 1972 or carried forward to any year subsequent to 1973. This is because, for Federal income tax purposes, the entire amount of the 1973 loss was used in 1970 and 1971, so no Federal operating loss deduction will be allowed in any other year for such loss, and the deduction for purposes of article 9-A may not exceed the Federal deduction.
Example 5:
In 1973, a corporation has a Federal net operating loss of $10,000 and a net operating loss for purposes of article 9-A of $8,000. The corporation is allowed a Federal net operating loss carry back deduction of $10,000 for the loss in 1970. In 1970, the taxpayer paid tax measured by its business capital and investment capital. Since the tax for 1970 is computed on capital, no change in tax results from carrying back the loss to 1970.
(e) Even though a net operating loss is one which is allowable in preceding or succeeding years as a net operating loss carry back or carry forward, such loss must be subtracted in the year the loss was sustained in computing the tax measured by entire net income plus compensation paid to officers and certain stockholders. (See section 3-3.2 of this Part—Computing the tax measured by entire net income plus compensation.)

Footnotes

*
The Internal Revenue Code allows a special deduction for dividends received (Internal Revenue Code, § 243) which created a Federal net operating loss. This deduction is not allowed under article 9-A. For purposes of article 9-A, a deduction is allowed for 50 percent of dividends received from non-subsidiary capital and for 100 percent of dividends from subsidiary capital [Tax Law, § 208(9)(a)].
*
The Internal Revenue Code allows a special deduction for dividends received (Internal Revenue Code, § 243) which created a Federal net operating loss. This deduction is not allowed under article 9-A. For purposes of article 9-A, a deduction is allowed for 50 percent of dividends received from non-subsidiary capital and for 100 percent of dividends from subsidiary capital [Tax Law, § 208(9)(a)].
**
Since allowance of the net operating loss deduction results in a net loss for the carry back year, the taxpayer will be subject to tax for that year on one of the alternative bases mentioned in section 3-1.2 of this Part. It should be noted that the $10,000 loss shown above may be subtracted in determining the base of the alternative tax measured by entire net income plus compensation paid to officers and stockholders. It may not, however, be carried back or forward to any other year as a net operating loss deduction (see explanation in text following Example 4).
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Current through February 28, 2023
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